Podcast Episode 14:  Angela Montano

Alison : I have no memory anymore. Right now, I don’t know whether my head is jammed with files. Are you, Jean? I think you look like Jean. I don’t remember anything. Okay. I do know that we’re going to do an interview, right?

Jean: Yes. This is with Angela Montano. And I actually reached out to her because, I saw something in my inbox and it was all about prayer. And as a spiritual practitioner, that really piqued my interest. So I opened it up and I saw that this woman, Angela, offers an hour of prayer on the air with Angela Montano, and it’s absolutely gorgeous. She uses the power of prayer to help shift consciousness. People just sign up and you can type in or speak to her directly and tell her what your challenge is and she prays for you. Her prayers are not the typical type of prayer, which most of us think. Well, I’ll speak for myself, that I grew up in thinking prayer was more like a beseeching request, but this is a like a quantum, very expansive prayer. And it’s beautiful.  What do you think?

Alison : Well, I felt like for me, prayer has changed so much, like when, you know, raised by Catholicism and having going to church and a Catholic school. It felt like it was like the Our Father, the Hail Mary, more like something outside of myself could help me. And then we learned, when I was at the church with you, Jean, a more positive, reaffirming type of prayer. And what I love about Angela is she’s accepting of it all. She accepts all prayer as a way of helping yourself, helping others and connecting with our True Consciousness or True Being, right?

Jean: Angela has a beautiful website and she talks about “rethink prayer.” So many of us, including myself have been schooled in in affirmative prayer, and I forget that when I’m in a challenging situation, I can stop and pray. And whether it’s just, oh, help me God or Universe… please figure this out for me, whatever that is. You know, it’s really tapping into a power that is greater than ourselves, beyond the little thinking mind that is constantly analyzing and trying to figure it out on its own will.

Alison : And what I love too is Angela’s voice. She’s like –  okay, so just sit back, listen, and really like, just let it wash over you –  because She’s amazing.

Jean: She is such a delight.

Alison : It is such a treat because I want to just say that I think that what you Angela, bring to the table is a renewed passion and a new awareness around prayer.

Angela: Thank you.

Jean: I love that. And, just a little side note, I went to North Hollywood Church of Religious Science, and I’ve taken a few classes, also at the Agape Church with Dr. Michael Beckwith. So I know that’s where you studied, yes?

Angela: Yes, that’s right.

Alison : That’s beautiful.. And you’re a practitioner?

Angela: I am a practitioner,licensed through Agape, licensed through the Centers of Spiritual Living. But really what I do with prayer for me has gone beyond the affirmative prayer method, which is beautiful and wonderful and a revelation. And I’m so grateful I was trained in it. And there’s just so many portals to enter into prayer.  I’m just so grateful to be available to prayer and entering into it in so many ways. Like, if you’re terribly depressed, to pray affirmatively is very, very hard. There has to be another way.

Alison : Could you explain that a little bit more? So you said you go beyond affirmative prayer, right? So for the listeners, can you just give a little snippet of what affirmative prayer is and then how you’ve moved sort of beyond that?

Angela: Right. Okay.

Jean: And one little thing, start with a prayer of supplication then a prayer of affirmation.

Angela: I’m going to start with affirmative prayer. Then speak to what you’re saying, Jean, and then go on to the beyond. So what’s amazing and revelation like a revelation about affirmative prayer for those who’ve studied it and know it, it’s got a technique to it. So many people I work with who have even grown up in religion so often I hear no one really ever taught me how to pray. You know, it’s like, bow your head and guess we’re doing it, you know, and we don’t really know what we’re doing. And so one of my big things I really want people to know is prayer has existed for centuries before the first religion was ever formed. So a lot of times we think like, Prayer is a product of religion. You know, prayer comes out of religion. That’s not true. And I’m not against any religion at all. And in truth, religion has contributed greatly to prayer. And yet prayer is this instinct to reach beyond whatever current mindset you’re in, out of which suffering is occurring. And I really do believe that is an instinct. Like we have the instinct to breathe, the instinct to eat, the instinct to sleep. Prayer is a spiritual instinct that I think we’ve lost contact with in a in a felt sense. And so I hope in my work with Rethink Prayer, I’m helping people rethink prayer to then enter into some kind of intimate, authentic experience of that reaching beyond. And even when I say reaching beyond, it sounds like I’m meaning like reaching beyond out there.

Angela: Where is God out there? I don’t mean that, I mean the Beyond…that is… I don’t know what kind of direction to tell you? I could say the beyond that is within? But within where? Do I mean behind my belly button, in my spine, like where is the within? So within our consciousness,you know, a metaphysical perspective is where we are a consciousness appearing as a body, like our body is within our consciousness. You know, that’s really extraordinary to think that. So when we talk about reaching beyond, I just mean beyond the limited way I’m thinking about something that is making me think there’s no way out, something will never get better from here, right? So what’s so beautiful about affirmative prayer is it solves a problem for a lot of people where they don’t feel connected to any kind of higher power, whether we call that higher power the existence of a kind of divine grace, whether we call that higher power God, spirit, love, beauty. How do I connect to it? So in affirmative prayer, there’s actually a technique. When I learned it, there were five steps. Now they actually have a six steps. But how I learned it is you just begin with God is. So God is, means Love is. Peace is and joy is. So you would use these verities of God. We would think of the qualities of God being love, peace, joy, forgiveness, compassion, prosperity and plentitude.

Angela: And so you just begin, no matter what with, God is these qualities of God, these qualities of Love exist. And then you do something that’s very radical in step two, which is I am one with this Presence of God. So I may not feel joyful at all. So I’m saying joy is and I am the Presence of joy. So I don’t have any contact maybe in this moment with joy, but I’m declaring it in prayer. And then step three is realization, where you realize not only is God, God is and I am one with this Presence, number three is whatever is concerning me… whatever it is, it can’t pay my rent, boyfriend broke up with me, I don’t know where my child is, we’ve gotten a really frightening diagnosis in my family that you then realize this presence is in the midst of whatever concerns you. At the center and circumference of this thing, that’s scaring you. So you bring your awareness to infinite possibility related to something that maybe has you quaking in fear. And then from there you say thank you. You release the prayer and you let go. So what’s so amazing about affirmative prayer and just catch that word affirmative. I am affirming that I am one with this greater, higher power than I am currently aware of. And I’ve seen amazing things happen for people through affirmative prayer. Now, prayer of supplication, I love that prayer too. When I originally learned, affirmative prayer, affirmative prayer was considered to be like for more conscious people, you know, like we’ve evolved beyond needing help, you know, because we know God isn’t outside of us.

Angela: We’re one with God. So, you know, we’re not begging and beseeching. That’s praying amiss. But I don’t believe that. I actually believe help is a beautiful prayer. And I believe it’s a prayer of high self esteem, because if anybody can just say help, they’re declaring they’re worthy of help. And even Michael Beckwith, who you mentioned, Jean, he told a story once about he was, I think in Costa Rica, he was swimming and he got pulled out by a tidal wave, like no, I don’t know, by a riptide, you know, And he was trying to swim back, He was getting super tired and he was really beginning to doubt he was going to make it back, And he even began to think. I didn’t think I would go this way, but this could really be it for me. And he said spontaneously, with no thought, something deep, deep, deep down within him moved through him, and it was just the word, “help.” And he said right after that, this huge wave came and pushed him into the shore. So, I mean, I love help. It’s one of my favorite prayers. And I probably do it every day. You know, I think of we need a toolbox of prayer perspectives and modalities. Because there’s just not one way to pray. Just like you don’t get dressed in the exact same thing every single day. I practically do. But I mean, normally you know, you might, you know, different seasons, different clothes. It’s kind of different seasons, different portals into I like to call it the prayer field. I didn’t coin that term, I heard that from Reverend Coco Stewart, who is also of Agape. And I was part of the pastoral care ministry there for about ten years. And it’s just like delivering things to the prayer field. It’s like delivering. Where we would be very constricted in our perspective to a possibility greater than we can imagine. You know, Emily Dickinson says dwell in possibility. I think that’s another great word for higher powers is just possibility.

Alison : And when you say your prayer has moved beyond that, could you give us an idea of what that might look like?

Angela: And maybe I’m not being perfectly accurate in saying beyond, it includes that and more. So when when I think of other ways that I pray, that I think is very good…. I did create a kind of prayer method called the vulnerability prayer. And it just starts with like, you know, I need and everything I think I need, I want everything I think I want. And then I offer all these needs and wants to the deep reality of peace that we all are and let go. And I feel very cleansed by that prayer. I mean, vulnerability is a strength, not a weakness. And sometimes I’ve taught affirmative prayer for decades, and a lot of times students like, am I doing it right? Am I doing it right? It’s almost like you’ve got to be so convicted and declaring God is, I am and right in the midst of this, God is. And sometimes, you know, it’s like, well, I can’t be vulnerable. And so I love the vulnerability prayer. Um popular, oh I don’t know how many years ago, maybe 7 or 8 years ago it became I think pretty well known, his Hawaiian method of prayer – Ho’oponopono,  Are you aware of that one?

Alison : Yes. Yes.

Angela: So that is an interesting method of prayer. And I’ve seen many people, you know, do different versions of that. I don’t know if you would like me to speak about that.

Alison : Sure.

Jean: Yeah.

Angela: Well, Ho’oponopono is this prayer that the story goes… That this man worked in a psychiatric ward where there were psychiatric patients who were criminals and they were imprisoned and instead of meeting with them, he sat with their files, and he did a prayer where he said, “I’m sorry, please forgive me, thank you, and I love you.” And so, when he’s saying I’m sorry, that’s a deep, mystical perspective on prayer. He’s saying, I’m sorry that whatever happened to you has happened to you. He’s taking even responsibility for what happened to them. Like somehow on my watch, this is happening. He’s saying I’m sorry for my perspective of you and society’s perspective of you. We’ve perceived you as other, as bad, as criminal. So it’s a deep Compassion in I’m sorry. And then the please forgive me, it’s offering all that one must go through in being so utterly misunderstood to end up with a mental illness and a record, you know, like like how many moments were missed for that person? So it’s like, please forgive me. Please forgive our world. You know, please forgive everyone…When I’m saying please forgive me, please forgive every teacher, every parent, you know, every one that may have held you that that didn’t… So I’m sorry. Please forgive me. And then thank you. Is the assumption that the gratitude is filling the space. And then I love you is the healing infusion of love. And as the story goes, there was that ward people got well and moved on to better situations in their life.

Alison : That’s gives me chills.

Angela: Yeah, I actually do that one practically every night. And what I often say I’m sorry to, at this point in my life, is just I say I’m sorry to the day, because I know every day is utterly miraculous. Like I bit into a blue actually a BlackBerry earlier. And it’s like, how do I describe that alone was amazing. And yet, how many moments do I miss? You know, when am I critical and damning something rather than blessing it? You know, when am I not seeing what’s really being offered to me in the day? How much love and joy and peace and prosperity am I missing? Because I’m caught in a loop in the divided mind where I’m going to name this good, this bad.  You know, the outside of my house needs to be repainted right now. So now that’s bad, you know? And then, you know, I’ll go in and what else needs to be improved? Or so I, of course, do my best to live in praise and I fail every day. So I love that prayer because I like to ask the day for forgiveness, like all the things I missed. I don’t know. It cleanses me.

Alison : I love that. Yeah. Yeah.

Angela: I told my girlfriend I did that. She goes, Oh, Angela, I think you’re like a martyr. But I don’t feel that way about it. I feel, you know.

Jean: It suits you and thank you for sharing that, because those of us that are on a, I mean we’re all on a spiritual path, but those of us that it looks more obvious, Um you know, when we say we’re sorry and we’re consciously really choosing our words in that moment, it doesn’t mean… We know our intention behind saying it.  I love what you said, Angela about the moments we miss, because if we can really hold on to the perception that everything is a miracle…who is it? Albert Einstein that said everything’s a miracle or not?

Angela:  I don’t know who said that. I think he might. I don’t know. I want to say Walt Whitman. Everything is a miracle or nothing is.

Jean: But it wasn’t me…haha

Angela: Do not quote me. Do not quote me.

Jean: The other thing I wanted to bring up and thank you, you’ve already given our listeners so much beauty from what you just said, on your Monday Rethink Prayer, I love when you say, “I am more interested in love.” You know, you say that sometimes to whomever you’re holding space for and praying. Can you just talk about that? Like how or what advice or what tips can you help all of us that are listening to you be more interested in love? Because that is so healing.

Angela: You know being interested in love, Is being interested in ourselves. It’s being interested in our own true nature. And there is love and there’s the experience of fear. And in a way, every moment is a choice between love or fear. The Course in Miracles teaches us love or judgment, but judgment and fear are you simultaneously in that or use synonymous synonymously in that text.  And so fear, if we think of it as an acronym- false evidence appearing real. So. I don’t know why I mentioned the thing about, you know, and I know it’s a very superficial could not be more superficial example, but my house needs to be painted on the outside, right? So I look at it and there’s a place where the paint is chipping. And when I’m critical of it, it’s because with that chip, I’m moving into fear. So anytime we’re feeling we need to rank, we’re in fear. Any time we think we, you know, any kind of survival mentality is fear based. You know, we’ve got to get higher, we’ve got to get better. Even self esteem is like, we’ve got to get high self esteem. And how do we get high self esteem? Well, I’ll compare myself to other people. I think I’m doing better than them. I’m not doing as well as those like we’re trying to rank ourselves. That is fear and it grips most of us. I think unless we’re completely in a communion with our own true nature, most of us are susceptible to this feeling of less than, you know, worried about our survival.

Angela: How are we measuring up? So when I say I’m more interested in love, I really am more interested in love. But for me, I have to turn back to love because fear grabs me right? The minute I’m critical of a house that’s keeping me warm, keeping me safe… I mean, who cares that the paint is chipping, You know? I will get it painted at some point or something else done. But I, In my deepest authenticity, I really love my house and I’m more interested in loving it, in praising it, in appreciating it and being grateful for it than in being critical. So when I say on my podcast Prayer on the Air, I’m more interested in love, I’m saying that to myself and all of us like, can we together as a prayer collective be more interested in love? Now what’s so interesting to me is loving feels so much more natural. Fearing does not feel natural. It feels like something’s off. You know, it feels like a pretty, you know, common habit. I’m used to this, but it doesn’t feel natural. I sometimes say it’s like kind of like wearing shoes that are too small and you’re like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, But you keep wearing them.  You stand in love..you ground in love. And it’s like, oh, these are the most comfortable shoes. Like we’re all equipped to be loving and to love what is. And prayer is always about bringing whatever is, into alignment with that broader, you know, energy within us and in the world of love.

Alison : You know, it’s interesting. I was reading or listening about you and it sounded like in your maybe it was high school years, you had a lot of things happen. And it made me think, I wonder whether that sort of fear or trauma helps crack open this desire for awakening? Do you know … And do you think that, You know, because you can’t really turn on the news without that, do you think, what do you think,  that’s indicative of something going on with humanity? Or it’s just those two things sometimes rub up against each other for me. Do you know?

Angela: Yes, I do. So, number one, I suspect that is what happened to me. You know, in high school, I broke a bone in my neck and was close to being paralyzed as a gymnast. My boyfriend and friend were killed in a car accident right after going to the mall to get my Christmas present. And something happened to a family member, that was quite devastating. And it all happened within a three week period. And I was almost in the car with my boyfriend and friend, and it was Just very interesting that I was not. And after that, I moved into a very deep grief before then, you know, I kind of was just. You know, I was definitely, you know, on track to do everything I could to please my mother and be a good girl and all that stuff. But I hadn’t experienced anything like this. And I had a moment. I couldn’t participate in gym class. And I was walking around the track and I was watching people laugh and play, and I couldn’t even locate a smile anymore. I couldn’t even Imagine one. And I just saw a tunnel and it was like I was dropping deeper and deeper in it. But as I was walking, it began to appear to me almost like physically, and in this physical thing I saw, I realized I could put my hands like in the tunnel and my feet and I could stop myself. And so and then I looked up and I saw this light and I began physically, this is all happening in an image. I’m just walking around the track in reality. But I started to inch toward this light and I had lots and I have had through my life many mystical experiences, supernatural experiences since then. And I think that, you know, began my journey. I mean, of course, like everyone’s journey, it went many, many different ways. And so I have a what I suspect, what I sense is happening on the planet today in this time of such equal disequilibrium, you know, is that the heart of humanity is opening and I think of the World Wide Web and like what’s allowing us to communicate, the way we are right now, as being the awakening of the global mind, if you will. Like you and I could pretty much learn anything. We’ve got information because of the web like it used to be information was power because it was rare to have the information. Now nothing about information is rare. What’s rare now? What humanity needs now is of the heart. And when I say of the heart, I mean of God is compassion.

Angela: Compassion is the rare healing elixir and currency we’re opening to. And trauma and compassion are very interestingly, interestingly linked. And so I feel like we’re going through trauma after trauma after trauma collectively, and it is breaking our hearts. It is breaking our hearts. And we want to numb ourselves. We want to not watch the news. We want to just we’ll all be in my corner of the world where everything’s okay. Or if we’re in a corner of a world where not everything’s okay, maybe we’re just trying to cope. I think what I want to do and I want to allow prayer to help me and I think all of us is might our hearts break open? Might our hearts break open. And when you let when I let when we let our hearts break open, we’re willing to lose. We’re willing to lose. And everything about our culture, especially in America, is win. Don’t lose. Yeah. So it feels so counterintuitive. And it’s it’s not. It’s it’s actually the opposite of that survival. Fear based in fear based instinct to rank, rank, rank, rise, rise. Rise up the ladder. We have to be willing to lose and in loss, as the Buddhists say, there is gain. But we are not trained for this. We got to feel our way into this prayerfully.

Alison : All right. That’s beautiful. Because so many times, um, it’s interesting because we have a lot of friends who’ve studied a Course in Miracles or are very, very spiritual, religious bent. And then lately, I know so many people that are atheists. And I think it’s so interesting that you talk on your website and also other talks about prayer for atheists, because I you know, I have one very, very, very good friend that does not believe in God, will not say it. And he got very sick and he could not believe all the love he got. And I said. That’s God. He was like, nope, you know? And I’m wondering, could you address that a little bit? Because people don’t talk about that. Yeah.

Angela: I’m so curious about that. Like when people say I don’t believe in God, I really wonder what they’re not believing in. And are they not just believing in the concept of God? The construct of God? You know, some male figure or something outside of us that could save us but doesn’t.  So many people today, you know, 1 in 5 Americans call themselves spiritual, but not religious. And in their sense of reality, they’ve been able to expand and mature their sense of God to include not simply a being, but a state of being. A state of being. You know, what I love about the 12 step program is there’s such an open mindedness, they just call it higher power if you’re in a 12 step program and you can work with your own imagination, whatever helps you relax into that kind of possibility. It doesn’t have to be a being. Now, what’s so interesting about atheists and prayer, there’s a bit written, not a lot, but I’ve read through a number of conversations of atheists who are completely at peace and feel very good about their intellectual decision and clarity about not being a believer in God. And yet they report, I keep wanting to pray. Why am I desiring to pray if I don’t believe in God? And is it just something, a habit in the reptilian part of my brain that won’t let go? What is it? And I love this one blog I read by an atheist named JD Mauer, and it’s entitled, Why As an Atheist, I pray?  And his feeling is, in terms of human potential, it’s reported that we may use 10% of our brain, right? There’s a lot more human potential that we have yet to access. And for him that’s considered like the higher power. And so how do we get at that? How do we get at that? And he experiences prayer as a method to access greater potential in solving his problems. So I might call that greater potentiality… Love, God, and he calls it, you know, Human potential that prayer allows him to access.

Alison : Hm. That’s interesting. Yeah.

Jean: Especially how semantics the words get all twisted. And you know, if you say the name Jesus, people just some people really love it and some people just turn their head, you know. And, I think we’re coming to a point where we have to drop so much of the language, which which is a form of separation and just really feel into each other’s— where is that person coming from? Like okay, maybe they don’t use the same words as I do, but I’m not going to try to make my point here. Try to get them to use my language, you know? Um, I think going back to what you said, Angela, that being compassion, whether whatever your beliefs are in.  My my husband used to say, Jeannie,  I’m not religious, I’m not spiritual. And I’d say, okay, well, sometimes it’s like if a tree said, okay, I’m not nature, right? You know?

Angela: Yes.

Jean: I said, I’m not going to arm wrestle you here. You know, Um, I said, You are A loving, loving human being. You are super kind. You are super generous. You think of others. You’re compassionate.  Yeah. Guess I am.

Angela: Boy, you’re so right, you know? Words seem to get in the way. And in this time of polarity and tribalism, you know, we’re not traversing to others very well. Polarity means I can’t even imagine how you think what you think. Like, not only do I not agree, like, I can’t even imagine it, right?  So this tribalism, this resistance to traverse to other, like what do you mean by the word God? What are you talking about? When I think of the word God, for me in my heart, it is that which is too vast to be named.

Alison : Yeah.

Angela: You know, it’s synonymous for me with mystery. And somehow, I’m able to have an intimacy and a relationship with mystery and intimacy. You know, and I don’t know why and how someone else is another way. But those words, they do seem to get in the way. But I love what you also are saying about compassion, because perhaps as our hearts continue to break open, we will reach for one another. We will Be curious enough to listen to one another. We might just feel so alone and isolated. We’ll finally want to hear from another.  What do you mean? What are you talking about?

Alison : That’s so, so, so true.  Do you have every day or maybe not a spiritual practice that you follow that maybe you could tell our listeners on us about?

Angela: Yes, I have. I have such a long spiritual practice. I mean, it’s just gotten added on to through the years and don’t do 100% of it every single day. But I meditate and I have time I spend in prayer. I do yoga. I journal. I probably do everything you all do, you know, and you know, I do really like to say to people, you know, the practice of prayer. I’ve been interviewed and they say even that term feels radical to me. Prayer practice, like we know a yoga is a, you know, can be a practice meditation practice, you know, prayer as a practice. So when I bow my head in prayer, I do like to bow my head. I think of the head bowing like is all my stinking thinking, all my analytical everything, you know, all my fear based things, all my arrogance. And, you know, I like to bow it. And when I bow it, I think of bowing it to my heart. I’m not talking about the physical organ of my heart, but I, I allow that to symbolize the, the greater expression of, of the divine. And just that will even feel good. And sometimes I do Silent prayer. Because I do feel at this point, for me, the prayers pray me and I go in and out of a lot of different modalities. I pray for a number of people and a number of things. It’s kind of strange to be a professional prayer, you know, so I’ve got like, you know, I’m in it to win it for a lot of people. And when I say that, I mean I’m in it to really hold the space of possibility for a number of people. So, you know, I pray several times a day and probably hours a day.

Alison : And it’s interesting when for a long time I was raised very Catholic and I’ve had so many changes in where I where my heart lies now. But it was interesting because when I was young, I thought if we said a prayer for someone named Bob, right now, I asked can you do one for me? I didn’t realize that by doing it for Bob, you are doing it for me. So I think it’s beautiful that you are saying that you’re holding because then I feel like you’re praying for me and mine and Jean. And that you are actually praying for everyone, because I believe that there’s no separation between myself and the people you’re praying for… But I used to like I used to try to glom on. Yes. You know.

Angela: Yes. Yes. And that’s okay, too. But that’s a that’s an advanced state of consciousness to realize your oneness with, Bob. And to know that as Bob is being prayed for, you are being prayed for. I actually in my podcast, I do a lot of reminding of that, like, and remember, as we pray for so and so feel how that is for you, feel how that is for a loved one.

Alison : And that all the healing that you’re creating there, you are creating healing for what we were talking before about the trauma.  That everyone seems to be involved in. I think we’re all involved in it. Yes.  Thank you.

Angela: You’re so welcome. Thank you.

Alison : Thank you very, very much.

Jean: Angela, before we sign off, can we can we do a little prayer together?

Angela: Yes, of course. And what would you like me to pray about for?

Jean: I think just just well-being for humanity and compassion.

Angela: Yeah. Okay.

Angela: Yeah. So we begin right now with just a few breaths where we’re willing to be still and quiet. You know, one mystic said that God is the breath within the breath. So as we breathe, might we consider that God, the vastness that is too great to be named,  The mystery that is only and always love. Could it be? Closer to me than the breath I even breathe within the breath? Could it be that with me, that with you, this Intelligence, this Love that knows no fear? Might I have? Might you have? Might we have a capacity to drop the fear, the worry, the anxiety. And the terror, the anguish, the despair and enter into the possibility of peace, of love, of joy, of lightness. Might the solution to the constriction of trauma might it be right here, right now with you? With me? With us? And might we let go? Might we let go? Might we let go? Maybe we could let go of one one trillionth of a percentage of our resistance. Any time we let go we’re opening to the divine that is right here with us. And from this willingness to let go, and if we’re not willing to let go, maybe we were willing to be willing. Just any openness to let go of our perspective that, “Oh, things are going to get worse. I don’t see how they’re going to get any better. Where are we going to go from here? Nobody’s solving the problems that need to be solved.” Can we go from that to any time we enter into compassion, we’re entering into a vibrational frequency of solution.

Angela: So might we open to compassion? And I do mean the compassion of each and every one of us. My compassion plus your compassion. Expands compassion for all of us. And even though there’s only one compassion, as each of us opens the door to our own portal of compassion, we’re setting the stage, we’re creating an environment where others will find it easier and easier. And what is compassion? Compassion is heart connection. Compassion is non-judgment. Compassion is forgiving. Compassion is understanding for not understanding. And I claim something magnificent is happening right here and right now as we join together in a welcoming of compassion. I accept that the power of prayer is upon us and there is no geographical limitation to prayer, that this prayer is everywhere on this earth, in all the waters of the oceans, in the air, in each and every heart of our beloved human family. And I truly open to something magnificent has happened as we have held this space for the dawning of global heart opening, the dawning of increased and expanded compassion. I let it be trusting the living word of Truth, of God, of Love spoken through And as me, I deliver it, to an unfailing, responsive, loving, friendly universe. Uni-verse one song. And in this release and in this let go, I allow And let it be. I allow and let it be. May we allow and let this compassion be and let it flourish. So be it. And so it is. Amen.

Jean: Amen

Alison : Amen

Alison : Thank you. And I love that you said might and may. That is a real gift. Thank you so, so much. I could listen to you all day.

Angela: Oh,  I would love. I could just and chit chat. I’m a my favorite thing to do is chit chat. You know, talk and just talk. So thank you. It’s such a pleasure.

Alison : Thank you for spending this time with us.

Jean: Yes, Thank you for you, what a gift.

Alison :  Yes. Thank you very much. So nice! Have a great day.

Angela: You too.

Alison : Bye bye.

Alison : I so enjoyed her, Jean. That’s how I’m going to talk from now on. What do you think? Does it suit me?

Jean: Not really. You know?  Her voice is stunning and her heart soothing.

Alison : And maybe you’re right. Maybe it’s just her heart is so open.

Jean: Yeah, I think, you know, she has done so much inner work, and the proof is in the pudding and that she shares this with others. And I think that’s what it’s about also, is that once we accept the gift of love for ourselves, then, you know, we turn around and extend that love to others. And love is not like this little, push over doormat. It is a force that is exquisite.

Alison : And I loved when she says might, the might in her prayer, which leaves up an opportunity and also like might, might the answer be here might I allow this because then you’re at a point of choice, like positive choice and might doesn’t feel like you have to, you know, it just feels like it’s an allowance. It’s an allowance and a willingness and it’s so gentle.

Jean: I love it. Yeah, that is why I tune into her Mondays, you know, it’s a beautiful platform. It’s so generous of her to to offer this. And, you know, whether you have a challenge in your life or whether, you know, the your pond is kind of calm. Just listening to her is a gift to yourself.

Alison : Might might we be ending?

Jean: We might.

Alison : Do you feel complete?

Jean: I do.

Alison : All right. We’re saying goodbye. Thank you so much for listening. Take care. Okay. Bye.